Mayflower Application-Samuel and Joseph Winslow of Rumbout

I had some major eye issues over the past six months, so I didn't get much genealogy research done. I had the Mayflower application returned quickly for incomplete information/need clearer copies/and "that's an interesting story, but we're a lineage society".....I spent the first month after regaining my health working on the genealogy of Samuel Winslow. I'm ready to resubmit the application.

Anyway, I went up to Salt Lake City for three days of research and did find several things--including a tie that Margaret Woolsey Winslow was married to Samuel Winslow. That should overcome the comment made on the Mayflower application that my connection of Margaret Winslow to Benjamin Woolsey was "weak" (Benjamin Woolsey's will names Margaret Winslow)--and the headstone didn't identify her with her maiden name. For those of you interested, that's p.22 of Biographical Memoirs of Wyandot County Ohio--John R. Jurey. If anyone knows where there is a marriage record---I'm still interested and stumped.

Another interesting item I found for all you Joseph Winslow/Margaret seekers are two documents...one names the children of Joseph Winslow--are your ready??? Declarations, pleas records of the Court of General Session and Common Pleas, 1721-1864 (FHC film#565229) names Margaret Winslow the widow of Joseph Winselow deceased and John her son aged six years, David aged four years, Stephen aged three years and Sarah aged four months from the precinct of Charlotte to the precinct of Rumbout. Its dated 9 October 1772. Bad news, the court case is between the Overseers of the Poor of Rumbout and Charlotte making Margaret return to Rumbout...The other reference is a few pages earlier between the same two Overseers of the Poor dated 8 October 1772. So not only did we get an approximate date of Joseph Winslow's death, we also got the names of his children also.

Winslow-Woolsey Rumbout-Mayflower Connection

Rumbout Presbyteryian Church Records-Mayflower Connection

I was running out of leads, so I decided to go back to the Mayflower Family Through Five Generations to see if I could possibly recognize something that slipped past me earlier. I figured all my research had made me much more familar with names and places, and maybe I might "see" something that would "click" in my brain.....I knew that some of the families were migrating together-- Providence>Hempstead>Rumbout>Newburgh (New Marlborough).

I really believed that Samuel Winslow (b ca. 1725) , son of Joseph Winslow (born in Boston 16 June 1677) was part of the line----so I decided to look at the reference to Hannah Winslow's 1757 marriage in the Rumbout Presbyterian Church.

My request for the microfische was delayed at the post office, but two months later I was surprised at the information on the Rumbout Presbyterian Church film (LDS)#1002749.
Joseph Winslow and Margaret Storm, 21 August 1753
Sarah Winslow and Daniel Cunningham, 28 January 1755
Benjamin Woolsey and Margaret Teller, 22 Dec 1761 (Samuel W. Winslow's future in-laws)
Birth of Elizabeth Flewelling 3 Mar 1752 to John Flewelling (Deborah Denton)
Birth of John Winslow 19 Apr 1752 to Samuel Winslow

There are also Lawrences, Cornells, Fowlers, Briggs, Smiths, Storms that I haven't had time to backtrack all their lineage up to Hempstead or down to Newburgh---but I definitely have "proof" that Benjamin Woolsey, Samuel Winslow, John Flewwelling belonged to the same church (Rumbout Presbyterian Church) at the same time, and each migrated to Newburgh.

The next project is to cross-check the Newburgh folks, against the Rumbout Presbyterian folks, and the Rumbout Presbyterian folks, against the St. George Hempstead Presbyterian records. (Ironic that the Newburgh church was also called St. George.)

I've looked all over for a Priscilla in the related migrating families for Samuel's second wife, but the only Priscilla I found is Priscilla Woolsey married to a Woolsey. So I don't think I'm going to solve that mystery anytime soon.

So, once again I will submit an application to the Mayflower lineage for Samuel W. Winslow>Samuel >Joseph>Joseph>Mary Chilton> James Chilton....and it will probably be declined because no one really wants to look at the research I've put together---does anyone expect me to find a birth record 250 years later? I'll also be pulling the information together to submit it to the New England Historical Society who is co-sponsoring the series of books on the Beekman Patent by Frank Doherty.

After I get that all done, I'm moving on.

Samuel W. Winslow Signature and Glebe Documents

I never made it to Deeds, Probates and Wills Courts/Archives while in New York in October. I got "stuck" at the Newburgh Records department for three days, when it should have only taken a couple of hours. ..but I did come away with the photocopy of the 1790 signature of Samuel (W.) Winslow.

There is an "X_No Way" through the 23 September 1790 Indenture entry on Priscilla Winslow. There is also a 30 September 1790 Indenture entry for Priscilla for lot 2, and a 30 September 1790 entry for Samuel Winslow for lot 9. The entry in the Glebe Leases (book 1) states Priscilla Winslow (that is Samuel W. Winslow's mother) plead poverty 1 May 1790.

I actually stood on the land that Samuel and Priscilla once leased from the Glebe--now that was pretty awesome. Samuel leased the Glebe lot 9 and lot 2 (Priscilla's) is close by--Samuel Winslow (father) lease for lot 2 is dated 1 May 1772.

Stephen Longwell "My Longwell Family History"

What a surprise I had on my New York genealogy trip! Instead of connecting my Samuel W. Winslow to the Winslow's of Rombout (still trying to find that Mayflower connection that the "cousins" had passed down to them) I was invited to connect with John Longwell, son of James Nelson Longwell, who had published "My Longwell Family History" in 1993.

John had agreed to "look for" the notes that his dad had put together on the Stephen Longwell side of the family. I never expected him to ask me to meet him in Albany to "pass" the treasure of notes to me. So I now possess the notes for My Longwell Family History, branch two--Stephen Longwell by James N. Longwell.

I've scanned the two notebooks of family information that covers 9 generations. I have this information available for any Stephen Longwell descents (I'll have to figure out postage cost--it will be on a CD). There are hundreds of pages of information that James Longwell gathered from libraries, books, wills, and Stephen Longwell family members. Regretfully, the information on Samuel W. Winslow isn't correct....but maybe after I have a chance to study the names around my Samuel, I'll have some new leads.

A good portion of the original book by his father traces the family descent of David L. Longwell Sr., referred to in the book, as family branch one. What John gave me were the notes for the second book, that was never written, the Stephen Longwell branch of the Longwell family. John still has copies of My Longwell Family History available--he can be reached at JohnCL2@aol.com. If you're interested in the CD copy of the Stephen Longwell notes, contact the BLOG.

Two Memes

I got tagged for two memes by Barbara of Our Carroll family Genealogy.

161

In this meme, you're supposed to go to page 161 of the book you're currently reading and list the 6th sentence on that page. Then you tag five other bloggers to do the same.

I'll let you guess the book, here's the sentence: "The Dodger sighed again, and resumed his pipe; as did Charley Bates."


Can you top this?

This meme was started by John Newmark of Transylvanian Dutch. It's purpose is to list your most prolific ancestor. John's great-great-grandfather had 22 children with three wives. He gives you extra credit if you show a screen shot from your family tree program to illustrate your ancestor's feat.

My family tree program doesn't have a feature to report a list of how many children each ancestor had, so I'm basically just guess-timating which had the most, and I think that would be my great grandparents Geyer. They had 12 kids, so no, I can't beat that by far! I did have an ancestor (Isaac W. Watson) who had 16 kids, but only 9 were his own, the others were stepchildren. Unfortunately, I can't add a screenshot of the Geyer Family Sheet, because there are still living children of this couple and I wouldn't want to publish their personal information!

Three Generations of Dolls

I've put a new wig on my baby doll twice now-- she's over 50 and deserves to look nice. Her name is Betsy Lou and my parents gave her to me when I was two years old. I took her in to a doll hospital about 7 years ago because I had misplaced her original blue and white pinafore dress and I wanted to display her. The lady who owned the job, said she wasn't of value, but cleaned her up, put on new hair and outfitted her in a beautiful winter outfit.


A couple of years later I decided to restore my mother's and grandmother's dolls. Each doll was in pieces and looked like they were beyond repair. Again I was told the dolls were worthless and that I shouldn't bother to fix them up. When I finally had the money to repair them, the doll hospital had closed. A few years later I searched the Internet.




I found Debra's Dolls in New Jersey. She did an excellent job in restoring the dolls. I now have three generations of dolls to display. I wish I knew my mother's and grandmother's doll's names, but I never asked--and when mom and grandma were alive, the dolls were just doll pieces in a box.




Anyway, grandma Bessie (Ginkens) Bear's doll on the left is an Armand Marseille German Bisque Doll made in Thuringia, Germany, circa 1885-1905 (with original clothing); the doll on the right, Ila (Bear) Geyer's doll, is an Ernst Heubach #312 marked with sunburst and "Kapplesdorf, circa 1920." I'm sure glad that I found Debra.

Samuel W. Winslow

Who are the parents of Samuel W. Winslow?"

The answer is Samuel Winslow and Priscilla _____. I still don't have a Mayflower connection, but I'm working on that since so many "on-line cousins" had that information passed down to them for generations.

Samuel Winslow, Benjamin Woolsey, Isaac Fowler and Thomas Woolsey names can be found on 1763 documents of Newburgh Precinct.

Samuel Winslow, Benjamin Woolsey, Samuel Fowler, Benjamin Fowler, Rev. John Sayre petitioned Governor Colden for a royal charter to establish St. George's Church in the parish of Newburgh. Petition was granted in 1770. You can find Samuel Winslow's name on Glebe documents dated 1772 and 1773.

Samuel Winslow and Priscilla ______ are the parents of Samuel W. Winslow, Hannah Winslow, Joseph Winslow and George Winslow. Samuel is deceased by August 1775, and it is our Priscilla that is listed in the Refugees from Long Island to Connecticutt. The children's names are from 1791 Glebe documents.

Priscilla, widow of Samuel Winslow plead poverty. I don't know for a fact that Priscilla is Samuel W.'s mother, but Priscilla is left a widow with four small children--so I'm assuming she is the natural mother.

If you're looking at the 1790 census for Samuel Winslow in Amenia--it's going to lead you wrong. I've compared notes with a "cousin" and that has to be a different Samuel Winslow (probably a cousin to our Samuel Winslow). This Samuel Winslow is a Quaker and his wife, Mariam Haight is a quaker minister (hence the document you find on-line in Ancestry is not for our Samuel Winslow). This other Samuel Winslow lived in Watertown. I still haven't found our family on the 1790 census.

However, in 1800 you can find the family--Ours is a neighbor to mother-in-law Margaret Woolsey (Samuel doesn't come up on 1800 census--but he's there just look up Margaret Woolsey). The other children are there also (daughter Hannah marries Jeremiah Barnhart).

I've scheduled another trip to New York this October to look at more of the Glebe and early Newburgh documents.

Stephen Longwell—DAR application 849984

Almost 40 years ago I had an assignment in my 5th period history class to complete a project on “My Family History”. I still have that binder, and it’s that information that Christina and I used to restart this project several years ago. I do have to acknowledge that I probably wouldn’t have gotten an “A” on the project if it hadn’t been for the information that my father’s double-cousin by marriage, Vernon Capps provided.

I went on a letter-writing campaign and wrote to many historical and genealogical societies. In fact, I still have the original envelope and response from the Connecticut Historical Society.

I was advised that Stephen Longwell had not served in the Revolutionary War, if anything he was a Tory. We’ll that slowed me down. I was super red, white and blue, and wanted to be a Daughter of the American Revolution.

Anyway, the documentation that “proves” that Stephen Longwell served in the American Revolutionary War is now on-line. He received a pension from injuries received during the war. Christina even “met” an on-line cousin who had in her genealogy notes that Stephen had complained about pain in his arm after the war.

All that’s left for you to do is to complete the DAR application. That’s a major undertaking….you have to provide documentation for each generation. So for those of you in our line save yourself some agony and request approved application 849984. Using my application you will only have to document one or two generations.

Last year an injured sea lion was adopted and named in his honor. It was released back to the ocean after it got well (yea, that means I made a donation to the Pacific Marine Mammal Center—an organization supported by the local DAR chapter).

I'm now corresponding with the son of the author of “My Longwell Family History.” This book, by David Nelson Longwell follows David Longwell's family, Stephen’s brother. It doesn't have very much on our line, but it is interesting. I reviewed it last year when I visited the Library of Congress. Copies can still be purchased (I've ordered a copy). David Nelson Longwell had planned to write a second volume on Stephen---hopefully we’ll learn something from those “attic records.” I hope to get a copy of them shortly.